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  request For an active UK JW

  by chrisuk in

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  i'd like to ask if someone who's still active in the uk could possibly send me a hard copy of the nnwt via post please?

  obviously i'll cover any costs.

  if you can help please pm me and i'll give you my address.

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  The Searcher

  Yes!
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  2014 ANNUAL MEETING 'NEW LIGHT'

  by The Searcher in

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  2. bible

  it-1 p. 523 - "just before israel entered the promised land, in 1473 b.c.e., jehovah made a covenant with natural israel at moab.

  " (de 29:1; 1:3) .

  why deceptively use the word "natural"?

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  2014 ANNUAL MEETING 'NEW LIGHT'

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 523 - "just before israel entered the promised land, in 1473 b.c.e., jehovah made a covenant with natural israel at moab.

  " (de 29:1; 1:3) .

  why deceptively use the word "natural"?

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  @ DAVIDAVID - You asked, "what are you saying is the implications for the smaller number of heavenly rulers chosen from mankind now then?"

  I assume that you are referring to the 144,000 mentioned in Revelation.

  On that basis, I have to say that after many years of indoctrination regarding these ones, I have come to a totally different view of them, based on Scriptural evidence, not certain ones' wishful thinking or propaganda. I'll briefly summarize, but if you wish the actual texts, I'll be happy to do so;

  1. Revelation 5:10 (Kingdom Interlinear & other Greek lexicons) clearly shows such ones will reign on the earth, not over it, so they will be literally living on the earth.

  2. They will be 'reigning', but as what? The Bible tells us that 'princes' will be appointed in all the earth by Christ himself, not as kings as the NWT says. Again, compare what the original Greek says.

  3. Reason on this - angels who have been in existence for millions/billions of years, and have endured faithfully for thousands of years while Satan tried to corrupt them, will now become inferior to a bunch of humans who have only had to remain faithful for an average of 840 months each.

  4. Nowhere in the Scriptures is there any mention of 144,000 thrones - nowhere! Pretty serious omission if it was true!

  5. Finally, Jesus' sacrifice was propitiatory or covering - it was a ransom which bought back exactly what was lost. So on a set of scales, put Adam on one side, and Christ on the other. Does it balance when you add 144,000 superhuman spirit creatures who become kings in heaven, to Jesus' side?

  It doesn't ring true, does it. It screws up God's sense of perfect justice and the basis of the ransom.

  Why would we need 144,001 kings anyway? What has any human done to share in Christ's rulership?
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  2014 ANNUAL MEETING 'NEW LIGHT'

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 523 - "just before israel entered the promised land, in 1473 b.c.e., jehovah made a covenant with natural israel at moab.

  " (de 29:1; 1:3) .

  why deceptively use the word "natural"?

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  it-1 p. 523 - " Just before Israel entered the Promised Land, in 1473 B.C.E., Jehovah made a covenant with natural Israel at Moab." (De 29:1; 1:3)

  Why deceptively use the word "natural"? Oh sorry, I forgot - to reinforce the FALSE teaching of the FALSE teachers, (the GB - collectively responsible for blaspheming the Word of God!) namely, that foreigners were NOT included in the Law Covenant, but were merely 'beneficiaries'!

  According to the same Insight Book, all such ones became part of the nation of Israel. So much so, that God Almighty himself commanded that they had to assemble before Him, together with "natural" Israelites - Why? - for one reason, and one reason only, to enter into the Covenant with Him!!

  it-1 p. 397 Camp - "According to such customs, the servants, retainers, and others attached to the family were reckoned as part of the household, and so the “vast mixed company” that left Egypt likely were intermingled with the various tribes, clans, and families."—Ex 12:38; Nu 11:4; De 29:11.

  For the benefit of those wish to verify such an 'apostate' statement, please read Deuteronomy 29:10-15. Go on, I dare you - double-dare you! The truth will set you free - not traditions of men which have been passed down from Russell & Co.!

  Perhaps at the 2014 Annual Meeting, (Oct. 2014 - exactly 100 years to the month - woo-hoo!) 'light will flash forth' from Brooklyn, and we'll be informed that 'new light' has revealed that not only is everyone a domestic now, but wonderfully, everyone is now a member of the Israel of God!

  How happified the hugely increased number of attendees/video watchers will be!

  (sorry, can't make it that day; Psalm 26:4 - " I have not sat with men of untruth; And with those who hide what they are I do not come in."
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  New Bible and Governing Body Term?

  by nolongerconfused in

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  2. bible

  has anyone had a chance to see if the gb has replaced or inserted the term "governing body" to any of the new translation verses?

  how about matthew 24:45?.

  thanks..

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  L.O.L. :) That's just too much to hope for!!

  That would be the final nail in the coffin for many!!
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  What has happened to Jehovah's Witnesses???

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know this is old news, but as i sit here, and ponder the upcoming agm, i can't help but think, " what happened?!!

  " i actually awoke an hour before my alarm went off, just thinking of everything that is bothering me about the wtbts.

  approach this list as a born-in, someone who was told that you were different from everyone else.

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  I'll bet that the Revised NWT still contradicts the Kingdom Interlinear's accurate Greek rendering of Revelation 5:10 where it says that they will reign on the earth - not over it!
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  brazen conduct, dissensions

  by hoser in

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  as predicted by jwn loose conduct has been replaced by brazen conduct.

  galations 5:19 2 peter 2:2 .

  a catch all phrase for apostates.

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  The Searcher

  In the original Greek, one of the several meanings of the word translated 'brazen' is 'insolence', as in the context of being 'insolent of standards of decency'.

  However, methinks (nice old word) that 'insolent' will be applied to anyone who refuses to knuckle down to, or disagrees with, an elder/s - thereby being subject to whatever judgment & punishment they see fit.

  'Hypothetical' (loooooove that word now!) situation - Witness is exposed as looking at websites such as this, and is then counselled to stop doing so. On being found out that they are still doing so, person will be DF'd - not for looking at the websites, but for being insolent of the Glorious Ones/Princes counsel!

  Tough times ahead, methinks!
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  Interesting email from a lurker

  by Fading Begins in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i received an email from a member who is not comfortable posting yet, says for now he just lurks - but he/she made a very interesting comment about the gb giving instructions to the elders about making adjustments.

  here is an exact quote: "for all you brothers that have responsibilites giving talks, public talks on the platform, assemblies and convections coming up, you have some work to do.

  you are going to have to relook at those scriptures you are using, and make some adjustments in whatever it says from the bible.

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  I said to a brother this afternoon that I feel very convinced that 2014 is going to be a very notable year for Witnesses, in view of the direction the GB has been taking, and I think many more are going to be further shaken by what emanates from the so-called FDS!
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  BUM WITNESSES

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can anyone save me the stress of listening to the self-appointed faithful & discreet slave for 3 hours, and give a clue as to roughly at what point in the proceedings was the derogatory term 'bum witnesses used, and by whom?

  i'd really love to extract that comment and send it to a weakening witness, to highlight the judgmental arrogance and name-calling being displayed.. many thanks in advance folks!.

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  The Searcher

  Thanks to all for the "CLARIFICATION"! ©
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  BUM WITNESSES

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can anyone save me the stress of listening to the self-appointed faithful & discreet slave for 3 hours, and give a clue as to roughly at what point in the proceedings was the derogatory term 'bum witnesses used, and by whom?

  i'd really love to extract that comment and send it to a weakening witness, to highlight the judgmental arrogance and name-calling being displayed.. many thanks in advance folks!.

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  @ 70wksfyrs

  That's what I read on one of the attendee's running blogs.

  I just wanted audio confirmation from the downloads supplied.